I know separatists can’t make an evidence based argument about Kashmir. None of your assertions are based on evidence and they have already easily been proved wrong. separatists can’t even try to address any of the facts made in my earlier discussions. This is a farce that has gone too far because of Indian policies of appeasement and over-equality as well as pakistan/separatist atrocities. Any objective data/evidence like CENSUS data contradicts everything you say. There are plenty of kashmiris who are pro-Indian. separatists/pakstan have killed and forced out the real kashmiris who would support India. That is a stupid precedent to set for a farcical “referendum”. If India uses even 1/1000th of the same tactics as separatists and pakistan and murders and forces out the opposition then obviously 100% kashmiris will vote to be with India. Surely that is fair and in a separatist’s world they would be happy with that! In a secular democratic army they don’t tolerate renegade rape and killing as this multi-ethnic,multi-religious force can’t function; that’s a reason why Indian soldiers are forced to pray with each other irrespective of religion,race or any affiliation.By contrast The separatist terrorists and pakistani theocrats are homogenous wahabi sunnis who feel that rape and murder is halal in jehad (based on hundreds of historical examples of what happened to YOUR ancestors eg temur,mahmud of ghazni etc). Even if there have been odd bad acts committed by some individuals (which should be punished) it is totally at odds with Indian military ethos. In kashmirThe 29.000-80,000 estimated collateral (inc 10,000 security forces) have predominantly been killed by islamist terrorists, are separatist terrorists or caught in cross-fire purposefully drawn to them by the separatists using them as human shields. The Indian army does everything possible to ensure no innocent gets killed (afterall a peaceful kashmir means an easier and better life for them as well as secular kashmiris; the only group who lose are non-secular separatists who wouldn’t get funded/backed unless they can destroy the peace). However now compare it to the islamist separatists who have based on all evidence performed unprovoked atrocities at 10-100 times the scale with rape and murder being a speciality. Your insincerity and hypocrisy is evident as you ignore all that. That also includes ethnic cleansing, mass murder and rape and unprovoked attacks on security personnel. For the ethos of the backers of the separatists,pakistan, look no further than pakistan for an example murdering a verified 3 MILLION and raping 100,000 bengalis (at that time pak citizens and sunni muslim-majority) and genocide (as proven by census data and daily verified case reports) on own people in pakistan-occupied balochistan,sindh and pukhtunistan today…not forgetting pakistan-occupied Kashmir,gilgit&baltistan decimation (actively filling it with the punjabi ruling class and retired non-kashmiri military officials) by its punjabi-jehadist masters, shiite and ahmediyya genocide today. In kashmir (starting in pok and now even in valleys) there is but a trace left of non-muslims and secular muslims. According to British official census data Hindus and Sikhs were atleast 25% in current Pakistan-occupied territories pre-partition; after partition they were exterminated to less than 2.5% and it has steadily dropped to less than 1.5%. In Pakistan occupied Kashmir,gilgit and baltistan according to British census data many regions had majority Hindus/Sikhs/Buddhists;even Pakistan sources the major populous cities (eg mirpur, bhimbur and kotli) had “hindu majorities”. In Mirpur (registered under Jammu then) alone 50,000 innocent men,women and children had the worst evils of murder,rape and torture inflicted - all being murdered in 1 day - many herded into gurdwara’s as concentration camps. Whilst Pakistan systematically exterminated its minorities in a way statistically comparable only to Nazi-Germany’s pogrom of the jews (and bangadesh 71), Pakistan-occupied Kashmir,gilgit and baltistan is the apex of global intolerance where NOT EVEN A SINGLE HINDU,SIKH,BUDDHIST OR CHRISTIAN HAS BEEN ALLOWED TO BREATHE OR SURVIVE. According to their OWN census the population of hindu,sikh,buddhist or Christian, expected to total atleast 1-2million, is ZERO BY PERCENTAGE AND ABSOLUTE NUMBERS; it is the most genocidal territory in modern history. They are killing of shia and secular sunnis as we speak. So Pakistan’s only way to gain public opinions is to KILL OFF KASHMIRIS who are pro-Indian so they will have no voice., and replace them with pro-Pakistan, pre-dominantly NON-KASHMIRI groups - a perverse take on “self-determination” - a precedent which can never be allowed. By contrast throughout pre- and post- partition, statistics show all groups have numerical increases in non-occupied Kashmir, in India (except the non-muslim and shia minorities in the valleys who have been murdered with atleast 300,000 exodus). And you talk of HUMAN RIGHTS??? WHAT A JOKE! For every 1 person you name an injustice to, I can name 100 by separatists/pakstan If Indian state was even 1/100 as firm as it should be with separatists, there would have been no separatists left in valleys (just like KPs) - they too would be in refugee camps in pak (who would treat them like bangladeshis anyway); the rest would be cheering on India.Thanks to the Indian govt giving special rights for separatists including 10 times AID PER PERSON than ANY OTHER INDIAN STATE they can ethnically cleanse with impunity via article 370. And what about the cowardly human rights violations against the Indian security forces? Noone mentions that - they are mass murdered with impunity by jihadi terrorist separatists(who mix in with local KMs so security have to ensure innocents not hurt) and have no geneva conventions (eg beheading) given and terrorists get away with it (egymalik) when they should have been tried and executed ages ago. The real victims in kashmir, are the ones targetted by these separatist groups ie the Indian armed forces,all the minority communities (hindus/pandits,christians,sikhs and buddhists,zoroastrians),women, shiite and ahmediyya muslims as well as secular sunni muslims. The fact is as seen by India’s stable populations of anti-Indian elements but ANNIHILATION of pro-Indian elements (as seen in pakistan,pak-occupied Kashmir,and Kashmir valleys)…everyone can see who the real abusers of human rights are. Ultimately the fact is secular India is the country where ALL (with over 1000 different languages,cultures,religions,races) ARE EQUAL AND FREE…and what you want (and say you are “forced” not to have) is SUPREMACY for 1 GROUP AT THE ANNIHILATION OF ANOTHER (like Nazi Germany and unlike the 1000s of other groups in India who are happy with equality)…that must NEVER happen. It would encourage extremists all over the world (eg Bosnia,Sri Lanka…but at a larger, Pakistan-like scale) to DO THE SAME to each other and ANNIHILATE each other. Its time we called the separatists out for what they are – evil terrorists; you cannot find equivalence for them. Because of their fascist,nazi-supremacist,hate-filled,sadistic delusion, everyone is suffering. For the world to avoid encouraging further land grabs with complete atrocities and extermination of minority groups, they must back India’s claim of the whole of Kashmir and oppose all theo-fascist separatist causes worldwide (Russia,thailand,phillipines etc). pakistan’s (and pok,g,b) attitudes and systematic demographic annihilation processes demonstrate how appeasing separatists only empowers and fuels their hatred of all minority groups, which is the key threat to world peace. So for world peace, secular government must be declared a human-right,pakistan’s legitimacy should be questioned and India’s position must be backed.INDIA (including Jammu and Kashmir) IS FREE. Let us resolve to FREE PAKISTAN AND CHINESE OCCUPIED KASHMIR,GILGIT AND BALTISTAN (AND BALOCHISTAN). Again I repeat and extend the hand of brother and sisterhood. J&K should get rid of separatism/terrorism/wahabism and article 370 like all other Indian states and that will bring in industry and development so this 1 state be a shining example of multi-culturalism like rest of India (eg Kerala,Maharashtra). We must support free secular India to remain and develop as the future and only country of ALL races,religions,cultures and people.